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Vinnie · Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:00 pm Post subject:

missed the point out but i think you knew that Wink

GhostZapper · Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 1213

I was at a question time debate at Stirling Uni a few months back and there were some interesting comments on a new structure of league in scotland. the two main issues were opening the bottom of the 3rd up, and expanding the SPL...

Frazer Wishart made a few very interesting suggestions regarding the topic of discussion. His comments were along the lines of - why would any of these amatuer/junior teams want to become involved with a pyramid structure, and what benefits did it bring? None he thought. Playing the likes of Annan, Elgin and Dumbarton dont really get these sides excitied about joining, and they are happy playing in their own regionalised leagues...

However, he believed if there was more of an incentive to progress, these teams would become interested. IE: 2 top divisions..... 2 16 team leagues etc

He has a fair point. If the teams like Linlithgow Rose, or Auchinlech think theyve got a chance of making into the big leagues within 2-3 season, then they become more interested in it.

Its all good and well expanding the SPL, but the sturcture underneath needs to follow suit. Now 2 - 16 team leagues sounds like a good shout to me, although not everyone will be happy with losing 10 sides, so maybe needs to be tweeked a little.

rovers4ever · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 5314 Location: Burntisland

The biggest impetus towards opening up the SPL is if one of the 1st division teams won the Cup - i.e. a team that doesn't get promoted.

If that happens, the bandwagon will become unstoppable - well, not quite, still gotta convince the SPL chairmen, but it'll make the bandwagon go faster.
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don · Joined: 10 Jan 2010 Posts: 160

16 team league would be good. Current set up is boring these days. Two up, two down.

scotty · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 9073 Location: Almost Dysart.

There's a decent bit on the BBC by Ian McCall telling of Particks woes and why he thinks reconstructions a must.
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Vinnie · Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:09 pm Post subject:

As much as I agree with him on expansion why do the likes of him become vociferous when their club isn`t doing well on the pitch

Crazy Englishman · Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:17 pm Post subject:

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Marko · Joined: 25 Apr 2009 Posts: 1148 Location: Kirkcaldy

Change is very unlikely to happen because of the majority levels required, which is 11-1. That means at least one of the Old Firm must vote for something which will never happen because expanding the SPL would mean they would only get 2 games against each other instead of 4. If you half the OF games that takes away a ridiculous amount of income from them so they would obviously rather play each other 4 times than have to play 2 extra games against teams currently in the first division.

The other issue is that why would teams at the bottom (St Mirren, Hamilton, St Johnstone etc) want to expand the league when it would probably require there to be 2 relegation spots, which would increase the likelihood of them losing out on their games against the OF. It wouldn't surprise me though if they did expand it to 16 but left it at one-up-one-down, in which case we would be as well giving up with football as that is just a joke.

For the good of football something has to happen, but for the good of SPL chairmen nothing ever will be done as long as those with a vote are the ones who may lose out if it happened. The whole analogy of turkeys voting for Christmas seems very appropriate here really.

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Crazy Englishman · Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:01 pm Post subject:

I think just about everyone is missing the real point to this.

Correct me if i am wrong, but we the fans pay our money to watch an exciting product which should match our expectations to some level. We are not being given value for money. Surely on that issue alone we could do something about it.
If the fans had a group who would and could organise some sort of match by match boycot, surely those running the game would have to listen. Yes some clubs would be put in difficulty, but its the clubs themselves that are allowing this nonsense to prevail so they have to bare some of the blame too.

Why on earth did Scottish football ever allow itself to form this stupid league set up, and why oh why did they try to emulate the english and some european leagues when they simply dont have the population to sustain such a set up.

Scotland has the opportunity to form its own league set up which could form an example for all countries with a similar population level. All the jigsaw peices are there, it simply needs people who have the brains to put them all into there correct place. Sadly their does not appear to be anyone with brains.

Sorry guys, not having a go at the Scots or the Nation, but at the numbnuts who are ruining scottish football.
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Steven · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 741 Location: Leeds