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Wolfman Jack
Joined: 25 Dec 2010 Posts: 10674 Location: Pawtucket Brewery
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Vinnie wrote: | Wolfman Jack wrote: | Vinnie wrote: | Seems to be a lot of criticism aimed at Dabrowski but very little or none towards the defenders involved in the comical 2nd goal |
Kev needs to realise that referees lean towards keepers when involved in 50/50's
He should have blootered the ball and attacking player in equal measure. |
So your apportioning blame on Kev for the 2nd goal? |
I meant the first goal when Kevin should have done better, if he were more ruthless going for the ball. _________________ Hope he's got plenty Rovers action to comment on tonight.... |
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Vinnie
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 8241 Location: None Of Your Business
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Dont think anyones disagreeing that he has to do better at the 1st but the point I was trying to make is there criticism towards Kev for that but none or very little at the comical defending at the 2nd _________________ THERES FIVE OF ME |
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Vinnie
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 8241 Location: None Of Your Business
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Tam wrote: | Wow, what a team effort to get us the three points and a special well done to Lewie Vaughan, he change the game and scored the vital goals.
Whereas goodness knows how many glaring misses we had??
Queens Park had a great plan, they were well organised, very skilful players and were tactically aware. Their German coach has installed a great team.
We were the opposite, we let QP attack and stood back, I dislike the way we defend, the defence looked like they didn't want to tackle?
BUT, when we did attack, we looked dangerous, but we could do with some players willing to take the defenders on, like Aidan Connelly does.
We scored with 3 good goals, and let QP in with two howlers.
Still sitting top equal, isnt too bad.
And a very good crowd today, just below 3000 |
The usual reasoned post Thomas but pretty sure their coach is dutch - he is indeed Vinnie, I stand corrected - Tam
Hes trying to introduce a game thats alien to not just the championship but scottish football which I dont think will work
You can pass the ball till your blue in the face but it doesn,t win games _________________ THERES FIVE OF ME |
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Wolfman Jack
Joined: 25 Dec 2010 Posts: 10674 Location: Pawtucket Brewery
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Vinnie wrote: | Dont think anyones disagreeing that he has to do better at the 1st but the point I was trying to make is there criticism towards Kev for that but none or very little at the comical defending at the 2nd |
From memory, he clears but Keystone Kop defending doesn't show any of the defenders in great light. _________________ Hope he's got plenty Rovers action to comment on tonight.... |
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Vinnie
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 8241 Location: None Of Your Business
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Vinnie wrote: | StarksBarmy wrote: | Vinnie wrote: | Seems to be a criticism aimed at Dabrowski but very little or none towards the defenders involved in the comical 2nd goal |
I’m struggling to replay it in my head but my recollection is that our defender had a simple nod with his head back to Keeper, do so and the madness of the next 5 seconds doesn’t happen? Can’t criticise the defender as can’t remember who it was
Kev doesn’t need criticising, he must know the magnitude of such errors. My main hope is that he toughens up, gets ‘angry’. Most great goalkeepers are a wee bit ‘mental’, don’t mind taking a kick in the face or wiping out everything in their path if need be, right now he comes across as a bit too nice and a bit too safe |
My recollection is the ball into the box wasn,t dealt with by cant remember who,Kev makes a very good save,then I think Watson headed the ball straight to one of their players,next minute its in the net..This may change once I,ve seen the highlights |
Watched the highlights and i,ll stick with my initial recollection on the 2 nd goal _________________ THERES FIVE OF ME |
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TxRover
Joined: 02 Jun 2018 Posts: 3520 Location: North Texas, USA
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Note that’s three yellows in three league matches for Millen…sub-optimal. |
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Crazy Englishman
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 6596 Location: sunny varna on the black sea coast
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:09 am Post subject: |
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no manage5s post match interiew _________________ now enjoying my fishing time, at peace with nature. but being a avid radio ham my global contacts have increased. any hams around call me lz2csk on 14200 or their aboyuts |
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red zebra
Joined: 18 Jul 2008 Posts: 2608 Location: Whaur the bridies are
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Crazy Englishman wrote: | no manage5s post match interiew |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDPKH4EFmPQ
Just watched the highlights, after the third goal, Easton runs back on and deliberately flattens one of their defenders, McPherson I think, totally uncalled for and unjustified. Don't need Rovers player acting the billy big boots, could quite easily got him a red card had they spotted it.
Another 3 points in the bag but I can't help thinking we are riding our luck, defending is pretty poor and not clinical enough up front, should have had that game done and dusted by half time.
Happy with the win, not happy with this, we'll score one more than the opposition, philosophy. It will come back and bite us if we don't improve. _________________ http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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wellyboot
Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 2583 Location: Aberdeenshire
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Just watched the highlights and why, just after our second goal, does Easton feel the need to barge into the back of one of the QP players?
Enjoy the euphoria of the winning goal without the impetuous stupidity. If the ref had seen it then could easily have been a red card. _________________ Two pints prick |
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Cuparman
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 1881 Location: Irvine
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:13 am Post subject: |
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I think having seen the highlights that the sending off was harsh.
It was not a case of last man or clear cut chance.
They had another QP player level about 20 yards away who could have caught our striker.
Happy we got it but had it been the other way around, methinks most would be peeved.
He was 50yds from goal with a player close bye.
Queen’s Park will be in the mix at the end.......along with us hopefully.
This side battles And doesn’t give up. That in itself is a major plus and is testament to the mindset that has been created in the squad.
Lewis deserves all the accolades that comes his way, as do the team.👏👏 _________________ Born a Rover Live a Rover Die a Rover |
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Tam Moderator
Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 6459 Location: Kettlebridge
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 9:20 am Post subject: |
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Red Zebra wrote:
Quote: | Another 3 points in the bag but I can't help thinking we are riding our luck, defending is pretty poor and not clinical enough up front, should have had that game done and dusted by half time.
Happy with the win, not happy with this, we'll score one more than the opposition, philosophy. It will come back and bite us if we don't improve. |
Good post Red Zebra and spot on.
But I also think we are getting better and the best is still to come |
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Heilan Rover
Joined: 24 Dec 2018 Posts: 602 Location: Lorient
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 11:21 am Post subject: |
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Tam wrote: | Red Zebra wrote:
Quote: | Another 3 points in the bag but I can't help thinking we are riding our luck, defending is pretty poor and not clinical enough up front, should have had that game done and dusted by half time.
Happy with the win, not happy with this, we'll score one more than the opposition, philosophy. It will come back and bite us if we don't improve. |
Good post Red Zebra and spot on.
But I also think we are getting better and the best is still to come |
I agree with you guys wholeheartedly. As hard as it is to build a negative into a recovery performance like yesterday, I have to agree with you guys in that we ought not to have been in that position in the first place.
It was a very frustrating watch having to take in all those missed chances in front of goal, and if I can be unusually critical of IM, I feel he left the crucial substitutions later than I would have liked, nearly costing us the game! However, the operative word there is "nearly". We did win the game and it was in no doubt due to the substitutions. So IM can genuinely justify his decision.
Just gony no leave it that long next time Ian. My auld ticker canny take the strain these days. So, just gony no dae that? Please! |
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badpress139
Joined: 19 May 2015 Posts: 2637 Location: Glenrothes
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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It wasn't a red card for me. They are going on about last man but that's not the law these days, its denying an obvious goal score opportunity. I don't think it was, a lot of ground still to cover and there is a defender possibly getting back. |
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wellyboot
Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 2583 Location: Aberdeenshire
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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badpress139 wrote: | It wasn't a red card for me. They are going on about last man but that's not the law these days, its denying an obvious goal score opportunity. I don't think it was, a lot of ground still to cover and there is a defender possibly getting back. |
I agree. 50 yards from goal and another defender nearby who potentially could have caught Hamilton. However, we should have had a red for Easton _________________ Two pints prick |
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robroy
Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 576
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Have to agree, having seen highlights never a sending off, and yes what was Easton playing at deliberately pushing Qp player, senseless stuff |
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