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Vinnie
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 8241 Location: None Of Your Business
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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red zebra wrote: | Just curious what others think here. When you look at the squad this season, would another manager (not Goodwin obviously) done better? |
Klopp maybe _________________ THERES FIVE OF ME |
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Cuparman
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 1881 Location: Irvine
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Vinnie wrote: | red zebra wrote: | Just curious what others think here. When you look at the squad this season, would another manager (not Goodwin obviously) done better? |
Klopp maybe |
Methinks IM could have done better.
Hopefully he will have learned from his mistakes. ( whatever they were) and be a better manager/ coach next season.
He has done reasonably well , the question peeps can/ will ask, has the lack of performances been down mainly to him and or the squad . _________________ Born a Rover Live a Rover Die a Rover |
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StarksBarmy
Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Posts: 4034
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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I feel he has struggled last few months and tried TOO hard which isn’t necessarily a criticism so longs he learns from it.
Too concerned about how our opponents are going to play at times instead of focusing on ourselves?
Too keen to put squad rotation ahead of continuity?
Basically, I think we have suffered from all the chopping and changing, not just line up of players’ but formation/tactics too.
Is he trying too hard to be a ‘champions league’ manager when the fact is that we are in the Scottish Championship? Sometimes less is more when setting up and instructing a team… Let the defenders go out and defend, let the defence minded midfielders protect, let the creative players create..etc etc…
I have sympathy for our constant loss of senior centre backs, he clearly doesn’t trust Corr ahead of Scott Brown and we just have to trust him on that but barring that and maybe the Ross Millen affair, he has had a pretty easy ride regards injuries… Stanton being the only longish absence coming to the forefront of my mind?
I just want us to do our best in these play offs and have no regrets to look back on… Let’s the boys go out and play without over complicating things before the enter the field… |
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stan drew rover
Joined: 05 Jun 2017 Posts: 874 Location: Work it out!
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Cuparman wrote: | Northern_Rover wrote: | Fair points SDR and Castle. I just think a massive opportunity has been missed.
After 33 league games I'm concerned that the manager doesn't appear to have or know his strongest starting line up.
I can't see us building momentum for the play offs if Murray persists with 4 /5 changes every game. For me the lack of continuity is killing us.
But yes the progress is great all around the club. |
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I see it differently. I'm sure Ian Murray has a good idea of his strogest line-up for any given set of circumstances or against particular opponents. With having a full squad at Stark's Park for the first time in years (at least it feels that way),
I think starting with the same 11 week-in, week-out would be a mistake, demotivating non-playing players so that they don't perform when called upon due to injury or whatever. Think along the lines of Scott McGill's or Dylan Corr's situation, only then apply that to six or seven players in the squad, and you can see the potential problem.... |
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TxRover
Joined: 02 Jun 2018 Posts: 3520 Location: North Texas, USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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We have a budget Premiership midfield squad*, in the Championship. A top level squad has rotation, and multiple players capable at each position, something we have*. They also have things like reserve teams and ways to keep the rotating players involved and up to speed. We suffered this year from an excess of midfield options at the cost of depth at the back. We then used midfield players rather than trusting what depth we had at the back. This is the genesis of our “failure”, which I would have to call a successful defeat since we nearly took DU.
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red zebra
Joined: 18 Jul 2008 Posts: 2608 Location: Whaur the bridies are
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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I'm grateful for the well considered and thought out replies to my question and I can't say I would argue with the points made. At the start of the season we played our own game and let the opposition worry about us, but as some mentioned IM tried to get too clever instead of letting them play the basic simple free flowing football we had done. I think the idea of promotion got to the management team (and board no doubt) I hope it will indeed be a really good learning time for them all.
I don't actually want to go up this season (tin hat on) Murray isn't ready for SPL football, neither is the squad or the club IMHO.
As for Vinnies reply, well Klopp hasn't confirmed where he will be next season so who knows? Maybe you could drop him a line Vinnie and ask if he would volunteer to help out pre-season
Assuming we stay in this division, I think we will be a better club for it, from coaching, squad balance and club infrastructure and maybe, just maybe, they will get rid of those stupid player videos, I'm all for a laugh but these are supposed to be professional footballers playing for a professional club. This isn't Kelty Mr Barrowman! _________________ http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/ |
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Vinnie
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 8241 Location: None Of Your Business
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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That point to cement 2nd place yesterday secured the club £628,900
Last season finishing 7th £254,150
2022/23
League-£254,150
Scottish Cup-£126,000
Viaplay Cup-£42,000
Total-£422,150
2023/24
League-£628,900
Scottish Cup-£22,500
Viaplay Cup-£72,000
Total-£723,400 _________________ THERES FIVE OF ME |
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Strathallan Rover
Joined: 29 Nov 2014 Posts: 653
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Vinnie wrote: | That point to cement 2nd place yesterday secured the club £628,900
Last season finishing 7th £254,150
2022/23
League-£254,150
Scottish Cup-£126,000
Viaplay Cup-£42,000
Total-£422,150
2023/24
League-£628,900
Scottish Cup-£22,500
Viaplay Cup-£72,000
Total-£723,400 |
You forgot to include the £10 we received for reaching the semi-finals of the SPFL Trust Trophy. |
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