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Are you in favour of summer football? |
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rovers4ever
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 5314 Location: Burntisland
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:28 pm Post subject: Summer Football |
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Cut & pasted from another thread (re call-off of the cup tie v Airdrie) but deserves its own thread.
I'm fast becoming an advocate of Summer football, played from the 1st weekend in March to late November with a complete break in July during odd years and a 4 week break in even years i.e. when the WC/Euros are being played.
As JMcG points out, better football, less forking out for astro pitches/floodlighting, better fan comfort, better quality of football and arrangements don't go to waste e.g. hospitality, etc.
To facilitate this, 3 leagues of 16 teams = 30 games a year. We'd need six more teams admitted into the leagues, which I don't think would be a problem.
The Challenge Cup could be altered so its played over a 3 week period in February (rather than pre-season friendlies) with the final in April.
The Irish and the Scandinavians do this, so I don't see why we can't. Hope this happens shortly. _________________ A proud member of the 45. Saor Alba.
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lbarnett-bl
Joined: 11 Jul 2008 Posts: 5411 Location: Kirkcaldy
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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Before I wasn't too bothered if there was summer football or not but given the recent postponements I'm now becoming a fan of it. |
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scotty
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 9073 Location: Almost Dysart.
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Some points.
Winter football would be mostly fine if we had pitch protection.
It would be seriously hampering when it came to games against other European sides who's seasons did not coincide with ours. (Both the national side and those that flirt with club competitions in the 3 moths before X'mas.)
The other side of the coin is that better playing surfaces and climate may make for better football.
More fans (I wonder) might turn up more regularly in a better climate but the New years derby would be a big miss (just like this year!), perhaps we could keep that as a special like the Boston Ice Hokey game at the baseball stadium.
I still like my football in winter I'm afraid but I can see far more reasons to play it in Summer than winter. _________________ Competitive goals: Vaughan 19, Easton 11, Hamilton 10, Smith 9, Stanton 7, Mullin 4, Connolly 3, O'Reilly 3, Rudden 3, S Brown 2, Dick 1, Gullan 1, Masson 1, Matthews 1, Millen 1, Mitchell 1, Murray, Watson 1, OG's 1, |
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rovers4ever
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 5314 Location: Burntisland
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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scotty wrote: | Some points.
Winter football would be mostly fine if we had pitch protection.
It would be seriously hampering when it came to games against other European sides who's seasons did not coincide with ours. (Both the national side and those that flirt with club competitions in the 3 moths before X'mas.)
The other side of the coin is that better playing surfaces and climate may make for better football.
More fans (I wonder) might turn up more regularly in a better climate but the New years derby would be a big miss (just like this year!), perhaps we could keep that as a special like the Boston Ice Hokey game at the baseball stadium.
I still like my football in winter I'm afraid but I can see far more reasons to play it in Summer than winter. |
Scotty, I'm proposing an element of winter football, away from the christmas period when spending can be a bit hefty, altho I agree that the New Year derby will be a miss.
Overall, there are far more pros to playing Feb-Nov rather than Aug-May. Also, be a fantastic early xmas present for any team that got promotion, imagine the sales of souvenirs, etc to commemorate success as christmas presents! _________________ A proud member of the 45. Saor Alba. |
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rigby rover
Joined: 13 Jul 2008 Posts: 98
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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I'm with the pro summer football brigade.
What other business insists on selling it's product when it is least attractive, most uncomfortable and dangerous to travel to and watch, and also very dangerous and expensive to provide?
Watching football during even a poor Scottish summer is always going to be more comfortable, profitable and attractive than in the winter.
Players would be less prone to non contact injuries, a cold body injures a lot easier than a warm one.
The games (even evening matches) would be played and travel to and from them would be done during daylight hours, resulting in a far better match day experience overall.
But the biggest saving to clubs would be eliminating the need for floodlights which cost a fortune to run. |
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moodyblue
Joined: 11 Jul 2008 Posts: 1557 Location: GLENROTHES
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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I would prefer 'summer' footy rather than having a winter break. With a winter break you will have the continuing problem of no footy when the weather is good enough and then still endure postponed matches either before or after any break.
I like the idea of cup comps being played over a short period. Not necessarily in February as was suggested elsewhere but perhaps during the summer holiday period.
Perhaps more scheduled mid week matches so that a mid-summer break could take place. Weather would be better for those evening matches too. |
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AllanJM
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 856 Location: Glenrothes
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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I actually cant think of any good arguments against summer football. I struggle to motivate myself to go in the winter due to the cold and I certainly cant convince others to come with me.
People will talk about tradition but we need to move with the times. Many things once accepted aren't anymore.
Others will talk about the disadvantages to the national team/teams "competing" in european competition but it doesn't seem to have done Russia/russian domestic teams any harm.
We would save money on floodlights, it would be a more pleasant experience for fans so more would be likely to come out.
Finaly the Ebglish league wont follow suit so when our season was finished we could still watch the EPL on the tv or even go to some games. Footy all year round....nice. |
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rovers4ever
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 5314 Location: Burntisland
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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AllanJM wrote: | I actually cant think of any good arguments against summer football. I struggle to motivate myself to go in the winter due to the cold and I certainly cant convince others to come with me.
People will talk about tradition but we need to move with the times. Many things once accepted aren't anymore.
Others will talk about the disadvantages to the national team/teams "competing" in european competition but it doesn't seem to have done Russia/russian domestic teams any harm.
We would save money on floodlights, it would be a more pleasant experience for fans so more would be likely to come out.
Finaly the Ebglish league wont follow suit so when our season was finished we could still watch the EPL on the tv or even go to some games. Footy all year round....nice. |
Playing Feb-Nov would actually help our national team if we qualified for the finals of a major tournament, since the players would be halfway through their season and therefore reasonably fresh & raring to go rather than playing a major tourney at the season's end.
I'm getting to the age where I can't be motivated to sit in the freezing cold to watch a match, I'm still doing this but I can see a time very soon when I'll decide not to attend winter matches except if its a local derby.
Tradition is nice, but if it causes hassle (weather, travel problems, etc) then change is the best way forward.
Interesting that the vote for summer football is 17-3 which at the moment is a landslide. Hope Craig Levein leads the calls for summer football - Henry McLeish too. _________________ A proud member of the 45. Saor Alba. |
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Graeme Meldrum
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 1254
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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What happens if Scotland qualify for a major tournament again ? |
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rovers4ever
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 5314 Location: Burntisland
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Graeme Meldrum wrote: | What happens if Scotland qualify for a major tournament again ? |
I did mention that there'd be a 4-week break in the summer to (a) allow players selected to play for Scotland or any other country at a tourney and (b) players not selected to play in a competition would be able to go on holiday with their families.
Another poster mentioned that lighter nights would allow more games to be played in midweek and IMO players generally prefer to play games rather than train. _________________ A proud member of the 45. Saor Alba. |
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Geordie_Munro
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 905 Location: Boise, ID.
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Graeme Meldrum wrote: | What happens if Scotland qualify for a major tournament again ? |
Can I have some of what you've been drinking? _________________ No no no no ma wee laddie. |
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raith12
Joined: 26 Jul 2009 Posts: 878
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Yes I do think we need a change in the football with summer football with all the posponed matches because of the weather at the moment is not good for the players or us the fans. |
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KdyHeelsLover
Joined: 01 Jan 2010 Posts: 132 Location: Kirkcaldy.
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:31 am Post subject: |
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Got to agree about summer football.
It's definately the way forward. |
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natman--nye
Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 169 Location: Glasgow
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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I think there should be a winter shutdown lasting around 3-4 weeks during the season rather than have summer football. The winter is depressing enough as it is so why take football away. I remember there used to be a shutdown a few seasons ago, not sure why they removed it. |
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fitbadaft
Joined: 07 Jan 2010 Posts: 93
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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I would prefer summer football as opposed to a winter break of 3 or 4 weeks as the big problem with a winter break is that you could never judge when to have the break. You could have a situation where matches could have been played (weather-wise) during the break and then when you start up again the weather could put matches off. The only problem I see with summer football (which I fully support) would be the first transitional season, teams would finish their season in May then not start up again until the following Feb/March, we would need to think of a scheme that allowed matches to be played between August and finish at the end of November, anyone have any suggestions ? could mini regional leagues work ?, say Fife/Perthshire, West/Ayrshire, Tayside/Highland and East/Central, just a suggestion to what would be a real problem but I would welcome others. |
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